Adam Dunn

**pvfan** · July 5th, 2006, 02:43 AM

It's good numbers but at the same time he's hitting .240 or so. The guy chokes big time in the clutch and is awful at defense if he was an all star wouldn't he have more than one all star showing?

**imported_howdyho** · July 5th, 2006, 10:31 AM

my favorite player in baseball!!! Send him to the cubs!!!
EL GRANDE DONKEY

**imported_howdyho** · July 5th, 2006, 10:35 AM

by the way, i put a pic of his as an attachment....how do you put it directly on the post??

**jake_norris** · July 5th, 2006, 07:03 PM

My point about Griffey was not that he is not a good player. He's very talented, probably the most talented player of his generation. And he's having a great year for Cincinnati this year. But has he been the guy for them since he came there?

Griffey came to the Reds in 2000:
145 games, 40 HR, 118 RBI, .271 BA, .387 OBP

That's a great year. Note that his BA wasn't through the roof, but his OBP was still high because he draws a lot of walks. He also hit a ton of HR and had over 100 RBI. Sounds a lot like the guy PVFAN wants rid of so badly now.

But in '01, '02, '03', and '04 he played in 111, 70, 53, and 83 games, respectively. Teams didn't go into Cincinnati saying "we have to stop Griffey" because Griffey more than likely wasn't in the Reds lineup.
Griffey had a good year in '00, and in '05, and so far this year, but do you think the Reds would go after him again if they knew beforehand how much he would be injured? Doubt it.

Teams go into Cincinnati scared of Dunn. He's the guy teams know can hurt them bad because of his power. IMO Dunn is the superstar on that club now, not Griffey.

**jake_norris** · July 5th, 2006, 07:05 PM

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if he was an all star wouldn't he have more than one all star showing?

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Maybe. But that's one more All-Star showing than most players in the league have.

**7_32** · July 5th, 2006, 10:24 PM

what you're overlooking pvfan is that as of last week (the last time i checked) Dunn had a .221 average on balls put in play. That's about 20% skill related (pop-ups and whatnot) and about 80% bad luck. That number will go up and up throughout the season. Don't expect Dunn to ever be a .300 hitter, but i guarantee every team in the Bigs would LOVE to have Dunner on their team. How do you justify trading your best offensive player when you're an offensive minded team? I'd trade every player on the roster plus three broken bats and a bag of peanuts to keep Adam Dunn on my team...

**imported_howdyho** · July 5th, 2006, 11:06 PM

doozy of a game on mlb.com...cubs 1, astros 0 and in extra innings its reds 3, beermakers 3

**imported_howdyho** · July 5th, 2006, 11:12 PM

4-3 reds...go ahead homerun in the 10th...guess who?????????????

EL GRANDE DONKEY

yeah...trade him

**imported_howdyho** · July 5th, 2006, 11:16 PM

reds bullpen sucks!

**imported_MoonlightGraham** · July 5th, 2006, 11:17 PM

I agree how can you get rid of someone who is gonna get on base 40% of the time, and still hit 45 dingers a year? the only problem I see of hittin him in the no hole is his speed and the shift the infield plays on him.

yeah griffey has had some bad luck with the injury bug, but this guy is still gonna hit over 600 homers. If Griffey went to an American League team as a DH he would play another 5 years.